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« on: September 04, 2005, 11:14:55 PM »

It is apparent to me that everyone in the LS has been anticipating the "offcial" conversion of neobahumut to a HNM LS. We're not there yet, but I'm constantly observing and thinking of ways that will advance the linkshell in the best way possible.

First I will present the problems we face, and my ideas (if I have any at all) on how to avoid the problem alltogether.

First problem is maintaining the sense of a family and community. While it will never be the same as it was when we had >10 members, but we've managed to keep it rather homely despite the larger population.
As a HNMLS we'd get many more players, and again putting that family feel at risk. One possible solution is make a seperate LS for all HNM activities. That may also mean that not everyone in the HNM side of the LS would be in NB. That might not be what everyone wants though, so thats up in the air.

We could also just go on hunts with another HNM LS (Heliotropolis is the HNMLS I tag along with now, and it would be much in the same fasion how I just pop in for HNMs). This may be more of a temp solution than permanent, and the other LS would have to agree to the idea.

Another possibility would be to just go as a LS, without changes. Much like with Roc, we showed up before ToD, anyone welcome, and we beat it to a pulp. Of course the only restriction is that you're responsible for your own life^^. This would help prevent members from feeling left out. Of course the LS might get crowded this way, and we don't have tanks! ><


Second is personal. Its rather time consuming and mind draining to keep track of all the little antics going on in the LS, and plan well enough ahead so that (almost) everyone is happy.
I need everyone with and without linksacks to keep tabs on everyone else, and report to myself, or a linksack holder any problems or concerns. I hate seeing fights in the LS between members over things that could have been avoided with a little bit of talking to clear things up. Immaturity and Begging will not be tolerated.
If the LS decides to make a second shell, it can be very difficult (depending on how we decide to arrange things) to keep things moderated. This means that someone else either would have to take charge of certain activites, or run another LS altogether. I will try to be unbiased in making such a choice if needed (sorry tenka Tongue*), so that NB can keep the reputation it has earned.

Another thing is the rate we sometimes allow players into the LS. I have considered making stricter rules about inviting members, but I have maintained the rule that good friends and family are welcome, only under the condition that they act mature.

A new rule may look like this:
Member Criteria: Level 50, Rank 5
Each linksack holder may invite unlimited members above the criteria, 2 members below.
Each pearl holder may invite 2 friends/family. Any of those members they invite may invite one person into the LS if they meet all other criteria. They may not invite anyone into the LS until they meet the criteria (if they are under). Then they are allowed 2 invites.
Of course, as with all our rules it seems, exceptions can be and will be made. I've never been too strict about rules ><

I'll recheck members soon for pearlsack rights, so keep an eye on your pearl O_o

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2005, 12:02:17 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2005, 09:58:55 AM »

I really think you need to go with the seperate shell for HNM or end game activities in general.  Back ground talk about how bad someones Valkrum Dunes party is during a HNM fight wouldn't sit well with me.  smiley

Recruiting people just for the sake of numbers is really going to hurt the family feel of the LS.  That's pretty much saying that the HNM one wouldn't be family like at all, which is something I'm sure we all wish to avoid.  

If there was another LS or perhaps 2 that we could ally with... I know this is setting us up for a lot of fights with people taking sides but if our leaders can communicate and are not currupt in general I'm sure things can be worked out anytime there is a problem.

A good friend of mine has been working on setting up a HNMLS.  He asked me to kinda keep it quiet so I won't go spreading his name around.  He asked me to be an officer if he got it going and I told him I'd think about it. I'll talk to him and see what he's got so far.  He's a real nice guy and I'm sure anyone he's found so far is going to be a nice person and have no problem fitting in with us.


I'll keep you posted.  afro
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2005, 12:04:09 PM »

We don't invite people for numbers, we invite them because one or more of the members knows them and thinks they are cool. I'm probably the mose selective one here about giving pearls. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2005, 05:12:49 PM »

The one thing I've loved about NB is the family feeling. I've been in several LS, guilds, whatever, that start with that feeling, but lose it as more and more people join. NB has not though. That's good. However, as we continue to grow, I'ld like to point out a few things that can reall harm the family unity feeling.

1. Prick player. These people are greedy, selfish, and plain mean. Warning might be given to them, but they never change. Best to just boot them ASAP.

2. Accidental Pricks. These people are nice enough, but they do things or say things that cause LS leaders to devote too much attention to. These guys you can give warnings to and sometimes they do change.

3. Cliques. Certain players just become a clique and make it near impossible for other people fit in. Left out playes feel just that and leave. Thankfully, NB doesnt seem to have any cliques other then the static party that several ppl are in. And even then, I try to get others in the LS to join in activities when we have a opening.

In any case, my overall opinion is this, carefull selection of people. That's the best way to build up a good HNM shell. Might take a while longer, but we'll avoid alotta the extra drama. And Omni, if you need my help with anything, just ask.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2005, 06:02:19 PM »

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I didn't say we have been.  I was saying we would have to if we tried doing it with just us, because I don't even consider myself high enough to take part in half the stuff I'd like the LS to.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2005, 06:08:25 PM »

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NB is a clique. A very exclusive and privilaged one I might add. ^^

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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2005, 07:22:25 PM »

hm do we not hv enough ppl for some of the HNMs as it is?
i guess we are missing tanks...only ones i hv in mind are kalix and jint..

another ls seems ok if the whole point of that is to just go in it when we camp hnms...

well i do see another problem:

ppl in NB are mostly not all-time dedicated players...that is...alot of us don't actually spend so much time playing the game...hardcore players usually leave NB as far as i could observe (probably because they can't stand the "laziness" of the ppl in NB - arroes, dart, BB, Oopy are some good examples of that i think...) especially when school has started or in my case about to start again..we might hv scarce dedication to HNMs camping...

but i do agree with dyce...if we are able to do with what we can with NB i prefer so...but then i do see problems with that... T.T

oh...
omni needs to set a new rule... NO ASKING TENKA FOR PEARLS
-.- ppl tend to come to me for pearls for some odd reason..T.T and i end up breaking omni's rules all the time >.>
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2005, 10:52:20 PM »

I'm tryin' to work my way up to the 70~ catagory, playing my other jobs is fun, but I'd like to be able to do some end game stuff before I get too far into another job. After i get WAR to 70-75~ish, I might lvl PLD to help with the "no tanks" position. NIN is too expensive x.x;

Oh, and if we decide on the other LS idea, I have a LS sitting in my MH that I've tried to start shortly before I joined NB and it promptly began to collect dust. It's called "HeavensVengeance" (No i'm not a jesus freak, just thought it sounded cool >_>; ) So that's up in the air as far as it goes. Hope i could be of some help. ^^;
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2005, 11:09:31 PM »

(The post I was writing before got erased, I'ma try and say what I was saying, but shorter)

Yeah, neo is like a little internet family (and that's not sad). I'm all for keeping it like that, and it'd be great if we could have an HNMLS like that. But it's gonna be hard to find people that are conducive to that family feel, and have enough people for the big fights.

That's why it might be a better idea to make a separate shell, and people in neo that wanna join, can. And like Tenka mentioned, it gives the people who might not have time to hunt to just chill like usual.

But yeah, I guess a good temp solution would be to go as the shell now, get some experience (and maybe some good loot >_>), or maybe tag along like Omni until we get a more permanent solution. Either way it's gonna get us ready.

Just my thoughts.

And we definitely gotta take a vote on a new LS name if it comes to that.
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2005, 11:48:53 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2005, 08:08:55 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2005, 04:25:27 PM »

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omni needs to set a new rule... NO ASKING TENKA FOR PEARLS
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I'm guessing that this was my fault.  I know, I broke the rule with Dal, but he's a family member, which was why I asked.  He's also only a few levels below the cap, and hardly plays at all.  However, he will pretty much do anything for anyone that asks him, so I hope that outweighs the little gap in levels.

Anyways.. my fault Tenka.. I wouldn't have asked if it weren't for the fact that he and I were using the same PC and I couldn't get him a pearl myself (then I coulda taken all the heat).
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2005, 08:10:27 PM »

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I'm guessing that this was my fault.  I know, I broke the rule with Dal, but he's a family member, which was why I asked.  He's also only a few levels below the cap, and hardly plays at all.  However, he will pretty much do anything for anyone that asks him, so I hope that outweighs the little gap in levels.

Anyways.. my fault Tenka.. I wouldn't have asked if it weren't for the fact that he and I were using the same PC and I couldn't get him a pearl myself (then I coulda taken all the heat).
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2005, 07:21:39 PM »

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I'm guessing that this was my fault.  I know, I broke the rule with Dal, but he's a family member, which was why I asked.  He's also only a few levels below the cap, and hardly plays at all.  However, he will pretty much do anything for anyone that asks him, so I hope that outweighs the little gap in levels.

Anyways.. my fault Tenka.. I wouldn't have asked if it weren't for the fact that he and I were using the same PC and I couldn't get him a pearl myself (then I coulda taken all the heat).
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lol i wasn't talking about u vill...i met dalyce before...at that night when u let him play as u at catroja... i was gonna give him a pearl when i see him anyway...

i was thinking other cases...sometimes there would be random ppl asking me for one...after a failed try asking omni LOL

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2005, 10:02:42 AM »

I kinda asked for 2 pearls out of Omni, one for Kastor, my lil brother and another for Ruthless, a good friend and fellow Marine I got hooked on this game.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2005, 01:20:45 AM »

Hey everyone I've been in this LS now going 6 months and I just want to let everyone know that I adore you all, you guys are like my best friends and I think the world of this LS so yea....thanks for letting me join and I plan to be here until ...well forever, Omni and Tenka Congrats on the wedding and wish you two all the best, I hope the LS stays family oriented and I will be doing my fair share to contribute to the family.  Thanks NB for making FFXI so much fun!

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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2005, 02:21:53 AM »

You've been a pleasure to have arround! You really don't need to thank us though. Like you said, it's a family.

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I will NEVER call Omni my daddy >.>;;;

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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2005, 03:33:41 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »

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Hey everyone I've been in this LS now going 6 months and I just want to let everyone know that I adore you all, you guys are like my best friends and I think the world of this LS so yea....thanks for letting me join and I plan to be here until ...well forever, Omni and Tenka Congrats on the wedding and wish you two all the best, I hope the LS stays family oriented and I will be doing my fair share to contribute to the family.  Thanks NB for making FFXI so much fun!

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No need to thx at all Smiley
Deciple is a very nice guy~~
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2005, 07:54:00 PM »

well the best LS in the game deserves some thanks.... you know! and im coming to promie tonight so dont leave with out me lol
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